{"id":83,"date":"2008-08-08T17:47:27","date_gmt":"2008-08-08T22:47:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/moriahjovan.com\/mojo\/?p=83"},"modified":"2025-07-31T22:10:29","modified_gmt":"2025-08-01T03:10:29","slug":"the-price-of-nice","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/moriahjovan.com\/talesofdunham\/blog\/the-price-of-nice\/","title":{"rendered":"The price of nice"},"content":{"rendered":"

I was over on Dear Author<\/a> talking about Breaking Dawn<\/em> by Stephenie Meyer, which I have not read. One commenter expressed disapproval of Meyer on the basis that she\u2019s a Mormon mother and shouldn\u2019t be writing stuff like that anyway. I will go so far as to guess this commenter was not<\/em><\/strong> Mormon because she spelled it \u201cMorman.\u201d<\/p>\n

I could crack on Meyer for a couple of different things, but when the religion gets broken out as a generic weapon to say \u201cYou can\u2019t write that because you\u2019re a Mormon,\u201d I\u2019m on Meyer\u2019s side. Period.<\/p>\n

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I don\u2019t mind walking around with the mantle of a religious culture that screams \u201csqueaky clean\u201d to the world. It\u2019s useful. I don\u2019t have to explain why I\u2019d rather not do a lot of things. I don\u2019t even mind walking around with the cloud of a religious culture dubbed \u201ccult\u201d by a vast majority of the people who live around me. That has its uses, too, and when some preacher gets up on his pulpit to excoriate us on Sundays for existing, I just have to chuckle and shake my head, wondering why he doesn\u2019t have something better to talk about. Like, oh, the Beatitudes?<\/p>\n

But the \u201csqueaky clean\u201d thing has its downsides, one of which is: \u201cYou\u2019re Mormon. You can\u2019t do that.\u201d<\/p>\n

Oh, really?<\/p>\n

Newsflash: We can. We do.<\/p>\n

Those of us who are lawyerly, bankerly, doctorly, accountantly types don\u2019t have to struggle with portraying human emotions and appetites in artistic works. But then there are those of us who do.<\/p>\n

I know one LDS artist who sculpts nudes. I know of other LDS sculptors and painters who sculpt and paint nudes. I don\u2019t have a good handle on Orson Scott Card\u2019s backlist, but I\u2019m told he\u2019s written a few things that have raised hackles amongst the membership. There are a slew of LDS writers who don\u2019t venture to allow their characters to kiss in any way but a chaste peck on the lips, if at all–which is perfectly fine.<\/p>\n

All the time, LDS writers\/artists come under scrutiny by our own people and get stung by the judgments and disapproval<\/a>, but at least you have a common background and you know exactly where they\u2019re coming from. You know it\u2019s coming, you brace yourself for it, you acknowledge it and take the consequences and move on.<\/p>\n

I think what I\u2019m having trouble with is the expectation that people of faith shouldn\u2019t write sex scenes or use bad language. They can refer to it maybe, under certain proscribed circumstances known only to the reader, and oh, hey, some violence is fine, but to write sex scenes and have bad language? No. And if they do, keep the faith hidden.<\/p>\n

LDS authors who write secular genre romance with the attendant sex, language, and violence don\u2019t make it widely known they\u2019re LDS and they don\u2019t put LDS characters in the roles where they\u2019d be required to be sexxoring or languaging or violencing.<\/p>\n

LDS authors who write LDS romance don\u2019t allow their characters to sexxor or language or violence at all and if they do, it\u2019s briefly (barely) mentioned in passing or implied–and the person doing the sexxoring, languaging, and violencing is probably the villain.<\/p>\n

(I\u2019m going to go ahead and assume this is true for Christian\/evangelical authors, too. If I\u2019m wrong, please kick my butt in comments, kthxbai.)<\/p>\n

I read genre romance for the story first (HEA YAY!), then the sexual expression within that story. If it doesn\u2019t have any and it suits the story, that\u2019s hunky dory. I read LDS romance for the story first and to read some representation of LDS people doing LDS things. I can pretty much expect no sexual expression, which usually fits the story because it is what it is and I know that going in.<\/p>\n

But I\u2019m LDS and sexual, so that leaves me out in the cold one way or another.<\/p>\n

There\u2019s this great chasm between sexual expression and religiousness\/spirituality. Why?<\/p>\n

Neither side wants it bridged because it hasn\u2019t been (or at least, I haven\u2019t seen it). Why?<\/p>\n

I need to know that spiritual people are sexual and that sexual people are spiritual, that the two can coexist–and I don\u2019t think I\u2019m alone in this need.<\/p>\n

Anybody? Point me to the bridge from EroticLand to PiousTowne.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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