{"id":10836,"date":"2024-02-09T11:01:21","date_gmt":"2024-02-09T16:01:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/moriahjovan.com\/talesofdunham\/?p=10836"},"modified":"2026-02-24T14:03:29","modified_gmt":"2026-02-24T19:03:29","slug":"the-cult-of-traditional-publishing-part-2-people-dont-talk-like-that","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/moriahjovan.com\/talesofdunham\/blog\/the-cult-of-traditional-publishing-part-2-people-dont-talk-like-that\/","title":{"rendered":"The Cult of Traditional Publishing Part 2: People don\u2019t talk like that"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"floatleft\"><figure id=\"attachment_16154\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-16154\" style=\"width: 237px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-16154\" src=\"https:\/\/moriahjovan.com\/talesofdunham\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/20200103_greendress.jpg\" alt=\"Woman in a long, green taffeta evening gown.\" width=\"237\" height=\"300\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-16154\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Green is a lovely color on me, don\u2019t you think?<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n<div class=\"top20\">\n<div class=\"center\">A tale of hubris and envy.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"separator\">\u2605\u2605\u2605<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve always wanted to write a book!\u201d I hear quite a bit.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDo it!\u201d I say.<\/p>\n<p>Writing a book has the lowest barrier to entry of any craft, hobby, art, free-time waster I can think of.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Language is accessible to everyone. Everyone can find something to write upon and write with. If you\u2019ve ever heard about back-of-the-napkin ideas\/art, just know it\u2019s A Thing. Creators will take any damned thing that can hold ink or graphite.<sup class='footnote' id='fnref-10836-1'><a href='#fn-10836-1' rel='footnote'>1<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<p>Therefore, writing a story or book is felt to be easy. That\u2019s okay. Most people won\u2019t do it. They\u2019re just not interested. Some people will and they will feel a sense of accomplishment and it\u2019s a once-and-done and they scratch it off their bucket list. They may or may not share it. A few people will be infected with The Dream and learn how to submit queries and proposals to publishers. Some will publish themselves.<sup class='footnote' id='fnref-10836-2'><a href='#fn-10836-2' rel='footnote'>2<\/a><\/sup> The marketers will make it to living (or better) income.<\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_16155\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-16155\" style=\"width: 250px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-16155\" src=\"https:\/\/moriahjovan.com\/talesofdunham\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/20200103_inkwell.jpg\" alt=\"18th-century inkwell, spectacles, and feather pen on aged parchment.\" width=\"250\" height=\"253\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-16155\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><\/p>\n<p>Anybody with a pen and piece of paper can do this.<\/figcaption><\/figure>What The Cult of Traditional Publishing fosters is the delusion that if you are any good, you <strong><em>will<\/em><\/strong> publish. It really is a religion: Take Simon &amp; Schuster into your heart as your personal publisher and it will reward you with a book on the bestseller list. Remember, you are a child of Shakespeare and he is your lord and savior.<\/p>\n<p>You just gotta have <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/6Cs3Pvmmv0E\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">faith<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>I bought into this delusion. It was easy to believe before the internet, because you had no idea how many other writers were querying and you just <strong><em>knew<\/em><\/strong> yours would hit the slush pile just right. There were probably a lot, yeah, but it wasn\u2019t unmanageable.<sup class='footnote' id='fnref-10836-3'><a href='#fn-10836-3' rel='footnote'>3<\/a><\/sup> I had an extra reason to believe because editors demonstrated they liked my writing but freak things happened.<\/p>\n<p>I was special.<\/p>\n<p>But the math don\u2019t lie and here is the formula:<\/p>\n<div class=\"top20\">\n<div class=\"center\">Number of publishing slots &lt; number of <strong><em>quality<\/em><\/strong> authors<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong><em>Quality<\/em><\/strong> is the real lie. It is the most pernicious lie because no one knows exactly what that is. Everyone assumes it\u2019s hitting the formula right <strong><em>and<\/em><\/strong> knowing one\u2019s way around the language. That is objectively true. It is also only ostensibly true.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.biography.com\/news\/jk-rowling-harry-potter-facts\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">JK Rowling<\/a> got lucky when \u201cthe chairman of [Bloomsbury] gave the first chapter to his then eight-year-old daughter, Alice, to read. Upon finishing, she immediately demanded the rest of the book. However, Bloomsbury was not convinced that it had a bestseller on its hands. Rowling\u2019s editor, Barry Cunningham, warned her that she needed to get a day job because it was impossible to make a living writing children\u2019s books.\u201d This is a <strong><em>children\u2019s<\/em><\/strong> editor and he didn\u2019t recognize a gold mine.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s easy to delude yourself into thinking one writes quality when your critique groups keep telling you this and you really don\u2019t understand the massive number of people who believe the same thing of themselves.<\/p>\n<p>You become like the beautiful small-town homecoming queen\/leading lady in local theater who thinks you can make it big in Hollywood, where no one\u2019s as pretty and talented as you are. <strong><em>You<\/em><\/strong> are the prettiest of all. <strong><em>You<\/em><\/strong> are the most talented.<\/p>\n<p>And then you find out LA is filled with beautiful, talented women and you look like everyone else and if you catch someone\u2019s eye, you\u2019ll eventually have to fuck Harvey Weinstein to get a breakout role and if you don\u2019t, bye bye hopes and dreams because you\u2019ll never work in this town.<sup class='footnote' id='fnref-10836-4'><a href='#fn-10836-4' rel='footnote'>4<\/a><\/sup> And you may or may not <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/GR0JcJabJJM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">go back home with your tail between your legs<\/a>.<sup class='footnote' id='fnref-10836-5'><a href='#fn-10836-5' rel='footnote'>5<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<div class=\"top20\">\n<div class=\"center\"><strong><em>If you are a good writer, you WILL get published. Don\u2019t give up.<\/em><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"separator\">\u2605\u2605\u2605<\/p>\n<div class=\"top20\"><strong>2006<\/strong><\/div>\n<p>I\u2019m doing medical transcription and part of a Usenet group with other MTs. Most are women, most are bleeding-heart liberals, and every MT in the world has one thing in common: We are all voracious readers.<sup class='footnote' id='fnref-10836-6'><a href='#fn-10836-6' rel='footnote'>6<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<p>An ancient woman, single, never married, with cats, a robot that mows her lawn, lives in San Francisco, and is about to retire. Now, this woman already irritated me because she felt very entitled to other people\u2019s money. She writes a book and she announces that she\u2019s been published. I\u2019m immediately green. I wear that color well. A lot. So I go looking and lo and behold! She <strong><em>self<\/em><\/strong>-published with this new-fangled thing called print-on-demand. <sup class=\"tinyaside\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Wait, what?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/sup> <em>Print-on-demand?!<\/em> Therein begins the toxic stew that churns in my gut.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>She\u2019s not supposed to do that! Nobody said she could do that! Doesn\u2019t she know how this is done? That\u2019s not an accomplishment! You can\u2019t be a good writer if nobody published you! I had that idea before you did and I couldn\u2019t afford it! I have been writing for years! I have a degree! My professor said I could write!<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"top20\">\n<div class=\"center\"><strong><em>HOW DARE YOU DO SOMETHING I AM TOO SCARED TO DO!<\/em><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>So I go to my secret horde of MT friends and rant. One of my friends, the only other female conservatarian MT I know (who has her own business) (whom I subcontract for) (who knows good fiction) bought the book and could barely read it. \u201cDon\u2019t worry about it; it\u2019s crap.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I felt better, but later, the Usenet group had a conversation about fiction in general and this woman says, as authoritatively as she says everything, that she hates reading books that are grammatically incorrect. To clarify, I politely asked if she meant dialogue, too. She said yes. I said, \u201cThat is not the way people talk.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey <em>should<\/em>. And I make them talk that way because it is correct.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>She is a medical transcriptionist. She listens to people talk all day. Doctors mumble, stutter, chew, shit, pee, and drive while they\u2019re dictating. Furthermore, I had cut my transcription teeth on transcribing my PI dad\u2019s telephone interviews when I was 16,<sup class='footnote' id='fnref-10836-7'><a href='#fn-10836-7' rel='footnote'>7<\/a><\/sup> and had developed various punctuation protocols to replicate on paper how people really talk.<\/p>\n<p>So I copied and pasted a small snippet of dialogue from one of those old books I had written but han\u2019t looked at in years. She ripped me to pieces up one side and down the other and pasted a good piece of hers (which was, indeed, crap), but shocker\u2014the others agreed with me.<\/p>\n<p>People don\u2019t talk like that.<sup class='footnote' id='fnref-10836-8'><a href='#fn-10836-8' rel='footnote'>8<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<p>Satisfied that she was a dilettante and as much of an annoying idiot as I had already thought she was, I went about my medical transcriptioning business, comfortably smug that she <em>had<\/em> to self-publish because she really was crap. My church and prophets were right, and my theology was pure:<\/p>\n<div class=\"top20\">\n<div class=\"center\"><strong><em>Only people who can\u2019t write must self-publish.<\/em><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>But there remained the tiniest pebble in my soul I was worrying like an oyster worries a grain of sand: I write better than that. <strong><em>I am better than she is<\/em>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><sup class=\"tinyaside\">Aren\u2019t I?<\/sup><\/p>\n<p class=\"separator\">\u2605\u2605\u2605<\/p>\n<div class=\"top20\"><strong>2007<\/strong><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/moriahjovan.com\/talesofdunham\/thebooks\/theproviso\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>The Proviso<\/em><\/a>, book 1 of my restarted writing career, was as finished as it was going to be without editorial help. I started looking for online critique groups. They were not helpful. I found a couple of critique partners, but they didn\u2019t grok what I was doing,<sup class='footnote' id='fnref-10836-9'><a href='#fn-10836-9' rel='footnote'>9<\/a><\/sup> deliberately hearkening back to ye olde dayes of soap opera books<\/p>\n<p>Didn\u2019t matter. An agent and\/or editor would see how special it was and whip it into shape.<\/p>\n<p>Then I realized there were these things called <em>ebooks<\/em> and <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ellora%27s_Cave\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>ebook publishers<\/em><\/a> and that was where most of these people were concentrating their efforts. Pffft. That was little better than self-publishing, but I continued to look for a decent critique group and partner.<\/p>\n<p>Well, it took a while but I figured out I wasn\u2019t going to get any valuable critiques.<sup class='footnote' id='fnref-10836-10'><a href='#fn-10836-10' rel='footnote'>10<\/a><\/sup> I started preparing my submissions according to the Old Ways and when I went looking for agents and publishers, I was ecstatic to find out they took subs by email <em>and<\/em> the restriction on simultaneous submissions was gone.<\/p>\n<p>I cracked my knuckles and gleefully copied and pasted my carefully personalized cover letters and \u201cfirst chapter into the body of the email\u2014no attachments accepted\u201d into one email after another after another and confidently hit the <strong>SEND<\/strong> button.<\/p>\n<div class=\"footnotes\">\n<p class=\"footnoteline\">______________________________<\/p>\n<p class=\"footnote\"><span class='footnote' id='fn-10836-1'><a href='#fnref-10836-1'>1<\/a>.<\/span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;#ProTip: Don\u2019t use pencil; it fades and you may need that idea someday.<\/p>\n<p class=\"footnote\"><span class='footnote' id='fn-10836-2'><a href='#fnref-10836-2'>2<\/a>.<\/span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;This was always true, even when self-publishing was of the devil.<\/p>\n<p class=\"footnote\"><span class='footnote' id='fn-10836-3'><a href='#fnref-10836-3'>3<\/a>.<\/span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;You weren\u2019t allowed to submit to different publishers and agents simultaneously back then, so it was a long process and you might never hear back. If you did so anyway and both publishers offered, you\u2019d have some \u2019splainin\u2019 to do, Lucy. The brainwashing was so complete that you obeyed this edict because you thought there was a very good chance more than one publisher or agent would want it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"footnote\"><span class='footnote' id='fn-10836-4'><a href='#fnref-10836-4'>4<\/a>.<\/span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Mira [<strong><em>sad trombone<\/em><\/strong>] Sorvino<\/p>\n<p class=\"footnote\"><span class='footnote' id='fn-10836-5'><a href='#fnref-10836-5'>5<\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n<ul class=\"footnote\">\n<li class=\"footnotenone\">Yeah, you were gonna change the world<\/li>\n<li class=\"footnotenone\">Walking back, a child in the rain&#160;\u2026<\/li>\n<li class=\"footnotenone\">Just keep your eye upon that endless broken line<\/li>\n<li class=\"footnotenone\">Throw bag beneath the bus<\/li>\n<li class=\"footnotenone\">Sit among the curious<\/li>\n<li class=\"footnotenone\">It happens to the best of us, you know<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"footnote\"><span class='footnote' id='fn-10836-6'><a href='#fnref-10836-6'>6<\/a>.<\/span>&nbsp;&nbsp;Flyover Country rubes who don\u2019t read? Please. We just don\u2019t read various flavors of mid-40s men detailing their midlife crises and sexual fantasies masquerading as \u201cliterature.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"floatright\"><figure id=\"attachment_16158\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-16158\" style=\"width: 250px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-16158\" src=\"https:\/\/moriahjovan.com\/talesofdunham\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/20200103_teenagesetup.jpg\" alt=\"A collage of 3 images: top left, heavy gray metal manual typewriter; top right, 1980s boombox; bottom: 1970s Sears \u201cFrench provincial\/baroque\u201d white and gold desk.\" width=\"250\" height=\"257\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-16158\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Shut up. I was 16 and poor.<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n<p class=\"footnote\"><span class='footnote' id='fn-10836-7'><a href='#fnref-10836-7'>7<\/a>.<\/span>&nbsp;&nbsp;Picture this: A tiny bedroom in a small house in the ghetto, painted pink, frilly pink gingham curtains handmade by my mother, a pink gingham quilt hand-made by my grandmother, a French provincial desk from Sears, a kitchen chair, an old Royal typewriter with a manual return, and a boom box. I stayed up till the wee hours of the morning typing and made excellent money for my age, for a work-at-home job, <em>and<\/em> managed to please my dad.<\/p>\n<p class=\"footnote\"><span class='footnote' id='fn-10836-8'><a href='#fnref-10836-8'>8<\/a>.<\/span>&nbsp;&nbsp;The rhythm of the way people talk is a kind of music. You have to alter the time signatures, put in rests and fragments and somehow convey allegro and adagio. You have to drop letters, syllables, and somehow spell non-word noises that actually mean something like \u201cuh huh\u201d and \u201cnuh uh\u201d and \u201cope!\u201d You have to have alternate spellings for regional accents: \u201ca\u2019ight\u201d, \u201cinnit\u201d, \u201cdoan\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"footnote\"><span class='footnote' id='fn-10836-9'><a href='#fnref-10836-9'>9<\/a>.<\/span>&nbsp;&nbsp;They always \u201cjust don\u2019t get what I\u2019m doing.\u201d Idiots, clearly, every last one.<\/p>\n<p class=\"footnote\"><span class='footnote' id='fn-10836-10'><a href='#fnref-10836-10'>10<\/a>.<\/span>&nbsp;&nbsp;\u201cReal heroines don\u2019t mutiny their captains by beheading them with battle axes while half-naked\u2014and they <em>certainly<\/em> don\u2019t do it on the first page. She\u2019s totally unlikeable. I\u2019m not going to read this and nobody else will, either.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-16153\" src=\"https:\/\/moriahjovan.com\/talesofdunham\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/20200103_dunhamreview.jpg\" alt=\"A 1-star review by Ellie Whit titled \u201cNot a fan\u201d, July 25, 2013: \u201cThis book contains some shocking and gory scenes of violence that, for me, were difficult to get past. It seems more like historical fiction masquerading as romance, which isn\u2019t my preference as a reader. I found little to recommend the heroine (she decapitates someone in the first scene), and the hero\u2019s introspection was clouded by odd lines that were stream of consciousness? Bad poetry? I\u2019m not sure what it was, other than that I didn\u2019t like it. I\u2019m surprised that kind of thing got past an editor, as it should have been punctuated or scrapped entirely. In all, I just didn\u2019t like the book\u2014it seemed a little too in love with itself and was weighed down by too much needless dialogue that I couldn\u2019t be bothered to wade through. This one was a DNF for me, unfortunately.\u201d Well, I\u2019d read it. That\u2019s why I fucking wrote it.\" width=\"804\" height=\"282\"><\/p>\n<p class=\"footnote\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Well, I\u2019d read it. That\u2019s why I fucking wrote it.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"separator\">\u2605\u2605\u2605<\/p>\n<div class=\"top20\">\n<div class=\"center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/moriahjovan.com\/talesofdunham\/blog\/the-cult-of-traditional-publishing-part-1-the-math-dont-lie\/\">Part 1<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/moriahjovan.com\/talesofdunham\/blog\/the-cult-of-traditional-publishing-part-3-what-do-you-really-want\/\">Part 3<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/moriahjovan.com\/talesofdunham\/blog\/the-cult-of-traditional-publishing-part-4-da-rulez\/\">Part 4<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A tale of hubris and envy. \u2605\u2605\u2605 \u201cI\u2019ve always wanted to write a book!\u201d I hear quite a bit. \u201cDo it!\u201d I say. 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