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		By: MoJo		</title>
		<link>https://moriahjovan.com/talesofdunham/blog/you-cant-leave-it-alone/#comment-7012</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoJo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ing, how funny!

Yes, there&#039;s a whole cadre of can&#039;t-leave-it-alone blogs out there.  Fascinating, really.  When I leave a thing (read: organization of some type), I really do leave it and chalk it up to experience.   (That&#039;s not to say I&#039;m leaving the church. At least not voluntarily.  ;) )]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ing, how funny!</p>
<p>Yes, there&#8217;s a whole cadre of can&#8217;t-leave-it-alone blogs out there.  Fascinating, really.  When I leave a thing (read: organization of some type), I really do leave it and chalk it up to experience.   (That&#8217;s not to say I&#8217;m leaving the church. At least not voluntarily.  😉 )</p>
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		By: Ing		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[(Dredging up an old post, I know, but I loved it and had to comment.)

&quot;You can leave the church, but you can’t leave it alone.&quot;

Absolutely true!  In good and bad ways, both.

My wife and I both grew up in Mormon families but are non-practicing (lapsed?).  Being born into the Mormon culture is a lot like being born Jewish.  Not in the sense of a shared genetic history, but in the fact that the culture and belief system are inseparable and permeate *everything.*  A Mormon upbringing can&#039;t be just erased any more than a Jewish one could be.

My wife and I like to say that we&#039;ve been marked by the Mormon Mafia -- you can leave, but you can never leave it behind.  You can get in, but you&#039;ll never get out.  Wherever we go, no matter where we&#039;ve moved, those nice young men in dark suits and trenchcoats somehow manage to find us.  (It&#039;s my mom&#039;s fault...she tips them off.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Dredging up an old post, I know, but I loved it and had to comment.)</p>
<p>&#8220;You can leave the church, but you can’t leave it alone.&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely true!  In good and bad ways, both.</p>
<p>My wife and I both grew up in Mormon families but are non-practicing (lapsed?).  Being born into the Mormon culture is a lot like being born Jewish.  Not in the sense of a shared genetic history, but in the fact that the culture and belief system are inseparable and permeate *everything.*  A Mormon upbringing can&#8217;t be just erased any more than a Jewish one could be.</p>
<p>My wife and I like to say that we&#8217;ve been marked by the Mormon Mafia &#8212; you can leave, but you can never leave it behind.  You can get in, but you&#8217;ll never get out.  Wherever we go, no matter where we&#8217;ve moved, those nice young men in dark suits and trenchcoats somehow manage to find us.  (It&#8217;s my mom&#8217;s fault&#8230;she tips them off.)</p>
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		By: Dude		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[no 3-some...these would be nice chaste boys...lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no 3-some&#8230;these would be nice chaste boys&#8230;lol</p>
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		By: Zoe Winters		</title>
		<link>https://moriahjovan.com/talesofdunham/blog/you-cant-leave-it-alone/#comment-7009</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoe Winters]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[bwahahahahaha. That sounded like a Mafia threat.  Like you were gonna have me whacked. ha!  Or a threesome setup.  That sentence could be read in SO many different ways.  No, lol.  I&#039;m happy with my current weird and very fluid belief system haha. :D

And people will think I&#039;m crazy, but I sincerely believe Tom and I have been together in lifetimes before this one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bwahahahahaha. That sounded like a Mafia threat.  Like you were gonna have me whacked. ha!  Or a threesome setup.  That sentence could be read in SO many different ways.  No, lol.  I&#8217;m happy with my current weird and very fluid belief system haha. 😀</p>
<p>And people will think I&#8217;m crazy, but I sincerely believe Tom and I have been together in lifetimes before this one.</p>
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		By: Dude		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zoe, do you want me to have a couple of nice young men stop by?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zoe, do you want me to have a couple of nice young men stop by?</p>
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		By: Zoe Winters		</title>
		<link>https://moriahjovan.com/talesofdunham/blog/you-cant-leave-it-alone/#comment-7007</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoe Winters]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One thing I think is cool about your culture and beliefs is that you guys believe in being married for ETERNITY.  Not just in this life (and maybe that&#039;s why Mormons are so big on vampires, because the vampire mythos understands this eternal mate sort of thing.)

In mainstream Christianity it&#039;s believed that you go to heaven and then your mate becomes more like your brother or sister.  There is no marriage in heaven.  There is no sex in heaven.  There is no romantic love in heaven.

W. T. F?

Why is that &quot;good news?&quot;  I have a hard time understanding why anyone would voluntarily convert to such a faith and be happy in it.  How can someone be okay with that who has experienced real love?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I think is cool about your culture and beliefs is that you guys believe in being married for ETERNITY.  Not just in this life (and maybe that&#8217;s why Mormons are so big on vampires, because the vampire mythos understands this eternal mate sort of thing.)</p>
<p>In mainstream Christianity it&#8217;s believed that you go to heaven and then your mate becomes more like your brother or sister.  There is no marriage in heaven.  There is no sex in heaven.  There is no romantic love in heaven.</p>
<p>W. T. F?</p>
<p>Why is that &#8220;good news?&#8221;  I have a hard time understanding why anyone would voluntarily convert to such a faith and be happy in it.  How can someone be okay with that who has experienced real love?</p>
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