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		By: Beelzabeth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beelzabeth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 23:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting viewpoint, Moriah.  I never looked at it quite like that, but the parable never really made sense to me either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting viewpoint, Moriah.  I never looked at it quite like that, but the parable never really made sense to me either.</p>
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		By: MoJo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoJo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi mamajen and welcome!

Yes, that&#039;s the traditional metaphor for the story. It&#039;s the stance taken in Sunday school and Gospel Doctrine and Primary and Relief Society. It&#039;s ubiquitous around Christendom. As far as I know, there is no Christian sect that does NOT interpret it that way.

I&#039;m looking outside that because to me, the metaphor is highly flawed and it&#039;s always made me slightly twitchy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi mamajen and welcome!</p>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s the traditional metaphor for the story. It&#8217;s the stance taken in Sunday school and Gospel Doctrine and Primary and Relief Society. It&#8217;s ubiquitous around Christendom. As far as I know, there is no Christian sect that does NOT interpret it that way.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking outside that because to me, the metaphor is highly flawed and it&#8217;s always made me slightly twitchy.</p>
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		By: mamajen121		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mamajen121]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is a parable people!  Don&#039;t take it so literal.  The 5 virgin that had extra oil were prepared spiritually for the bridegroom...aka Jesus...to return!  The 5 that didn&#039;t have enough oil...had procrastinated the day that He would come and so they were not ready...thus not recieving their reward in heaven.  We can not procrastinate the day of our repentance.  We can not  &quot;eat, drink and be merry&quot;  and then expect to be rewarded for our bad deads when the Savior comes again.  We must prepare and study the words of Christ so that we are ready to enter into His presence...thus knowing the Savior and Him knowing us!  The 5 foolish virgins were not bad people...they just weren&#039;t prepared to meet the Savior!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a parable people!  Don&#8217;t take it so literal.  The 5 virgin that had extra oil were prepared spiritually for the bridegroom&#8230;aka Jesus&#8230;to return!  The 5 that didn&#8217;t have enough oil&#8230;had procrastinated the day that He would come and so they were not ready&#8230;thus not recieving their reward in heaven.  We can not procrastinate the day of our repentance.  We can not  &#8220;eat, drink and be merry&#8221;  and then expect to be rewarded for our bad deads when the Savior comes again.  We must prepare and study the words of Christ so that we are ready to enter into His presence&#8230;thus knowing the Savior and Him knowing us!  The 5 foolish virgins were not bad people&#8230;they just weren&#8217;t prepared to meet the Savior!!!</p>
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		By: MoJo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoJo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Joe

Sharing? Almost a dirty word in my household, but given the context of surrounding altruism, that&#039;s a valid question. Widow&#039;s mite blah blah blah. Were they sinners because they didn&#039;t share? I vote yes!

As for profit, well, the other five wanted to leave to go BUY some more, then come back, but weren&#039;t even allowed to do that, so yeah, the &quot;virtuous&quot; five certainly could&#039;ve profited.

I&#039;ve also wondered what would&#039;ve happened if the bridegroom had waited any longer, but by then it probably would&#039;ve been daybreak.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joe</p>
<p>Sharing? Almost a dirty word in my household, but given the context of surrounding altruism, that&#8217;s a valid question. Widow&#8217;s mite blah blah blah. Were they sinners because they didn&#8217;t share? I vote yes!</p>
<p>As for profit, well, the other five wanted to leave to go BUY some more, then come back, but weren&#8217;t even allowed to do that, so yeah, the &#8220;virtuous&#8221; five certainly could&#8217;ve profited.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also wondered what would&#8217;ve happened if the bridegroom had waited any longer, but by then it probably would&#8217;ve been daybreak.</p>
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		By: Zoe Winters		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoe Winters]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LMAO I think selling at a profit would have been wise.  Then they could retire in luxury and take care of themselves without being at the mercy of some irresponsible bridegroom.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMAO I think selling at a profit would have been wise.  Then they could retire in luxury and take care of themselves without being at the mercy of some irresponsible bridegroom.</p>
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		By: Joe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always wondered what would have happened if the bridegroom had tarried even longer and the five with extra oil had run out. I&#039;ve also wondered why five of the virgins were such assholes that they didn&#039;t share (or at least didn&#039;t sell at a good profit) some of their extra oil.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always wondered what would have happened if the bridegroom had tarried even longer and the five with extra oil had run out. I&#8217;ve also wondered why five of the virgins were such assholes that they didn&#8217;t share (or at least didn&#8217;t sell at a good profit) some of their extra oil.</p>
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		By: Zoe Winters		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoe Winters]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[15/16ths is such a precise amount.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>15/16ths is such a precise amount.</p>
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		By: MoJo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoJo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m not sure how I got the reputation for being scary&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s the noobs, you know, Over There At That Other Place We Hang Out. Terrifying, really.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t want to keep him, just abuse him for a while and send him home.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s what Beltane is for. Do I have to cite your religion at you?

&lt;blockquote&gt;are we firmly entrenched in weird 1950s territory&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have a post coming up on that. The Good Wife, according to 195x &lt;i&gt;Good Housekeeping&lt;/i&gt; or some shit. I&#039;m having to haul out the Friedan and Paglia to cope, I was so scarred.

&lt;blockquote&gt;How many men came to this shindig without proper camping gear and did they also get sent home if they came without a spare bottle of propane?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Naturally, men were not mentioned as having erred, but you know, I blame the Council at Nicaea for about 15/16ths of the bullshit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m not sure how I got the reputation for being scary</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s the noobs, you know, Over There At That Other Place We Hang Out. Terrifying, really.</p>
<blockquote><p>I don’t want to keep him, just abuse him for a while and send him home.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s what Beltane is for. Do I have to cite your religion at you?</p>
<blockquote><p>are we firmly entrenched in weird 1950s territory</p></blockquote>
<p>I have a post coming up on that. The Good Wife, according to 195x <i>Good Housekeeping</i> or some shit. I&#8217;m having to haul out the Friedan and Paglia to cope, I was so scarred.</p>
<blockquote><p>How many men came to this shindig without proper camping gear and did they also get sent home if they came without a spare bottle of propane?</p></blockquote>
<p>Naturally, men were not mentioned as having erred, but you know, I blame the Council at Nicaea for about 15/16ths of the bullshit.</p>
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		By: haggis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[haggis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Who--me specifically, or bad rep girls in general?  (Why do I feel like I&#039;m channeling Mae West now? Yes, when I&#039;m good, I&#039;m very good. . . but when I&#039;m bad, I&#039;m better.  Meowr. :) )

Not to worry. I don&#039;t want to keep him, just abuse him for a while and send him home. I&#039;ve already tried the keeping part and think I might be too old and set in my ways to bother with a guy full-time. If nothing else, I&#039;ve already gotten used to having the queen-sized bed to myself and not having to worry about falling into the toilet bowl in the middle of the night because some lazy jerk fouled up my feng shui and left the seat up.

Of course, I know better than to say never.

This kind of thinking is a great example of why I found no use for religiosity from a very young age. Even before I grokked the concept of misogyny, I recognized it for what it was (my family is catholic, if that helps). 

So what about the bad boys? Do they get off scot-free or are we firmly entrenched in weird 1950s territory? I have to say that I find the concepts of &quot;good&quot; and &quot;bad&quot; largely subjective and irrelevant, which prolly makes it hard to argue in a satisfying way. 

So save me the chore of having to read this great fiction for myself. How many men came to this shindig without proper camping gear and did they also get sent home if they came without a spare bottle of propane?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8211;me specifically, or bad rep girls in general?  (Why do I feel like I&#8217;m channeling Mae West now? Yes, when I&#8217;m good, I&#8217;m very good. . . but when I&#8217;m bad, I&#8217;m better.  Meowr. 🙂 )</p>
<p>Not to worry. I don&#8217;t want to keep him, just abuse him for a while and send him home. I&#8217;ve already tried the keeping part and think I might be too old and set in my ways to bother with a guy full-time. If nothing else, I&#8217;ve already gotten used to having the queen-sized bed to myself and not having to worry about falling into the toilet bowl in the middle of the night because some lazy jerk fouled up my feng shui and left the seat up.</p>
<p>Of course, I know better than to say never.</p>
<p>This kind of thinking is a great example of why I found no use for religiosity from a very young age. Even before I grokked the concept of misogyny, I recognized it for what it was (my family is catholic, if that helps). </p>
<p>So what about the bad boys? Do they get off scot-free or are we firmly entrenched in weird 1950s territory? I have to say that I find the concepts of &#8220;good&#8221; and &#8220;bad&#8221; largely subjective and irrelevant, which prolly makes it hard to argue in a satisfying way. </p>
<p>So save me the chore of having to read this great fiction for myself. How many men came to this shindig without proper camping gear and did they also get sent home if they came without a spare bottle of propane?</p>
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		By: Dude		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dude thinks if you have a bad rep you don&#039;t get to keep the guy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude thinks if you have a bad rep you don&#8217;t get to keep the guy.</p>
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