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		By: Wm		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 03:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Editors could have writers sign an NDA which requires them to get your permission before using your name to help them sell their book.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Editors could have writers sign an NDA which requires them to get your permission before using your name to help them sell their book.</p>
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		By: Stephen M (Ethesis)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen M (Ethesis)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 02:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m all for editors branding themselves.  I find editors often a very good clue or guide to what to expect from a book.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for editors branding themselves.  I find editors often a very good clue or guide to what to expect from a book.</p>
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		By: Th.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Th.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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Yeah, because obviously if I put my name on everything it touches, and half that stuff is crap, that hurts you as well.]]></description>
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<p>Yeah, because obviously if I put my name on everything it touches, and half that stuff is crap, that hurts you as well.</p>
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		By: MoJo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoJo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So in thinking about the idea of not wanting your name on something you were paid to edit, but the edits weren&#039;t taken:

I think there should be some kind of mechanism where you can just say, &quot;I reserve the right to have you take my name off it if you don&#039;t follow my recommendations. You&#039;re paying me to lend my name to this work, but if you won&#039;t take my suggestions, then it&#039;s not my work.&quot; Or something less clunky.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So in thinking about the idea of not wanting your name on something you were paid to edit, but the edits weren&#8217;t taken:</p>
<p>I think there should be some kind of mechanism where you can just say, &#8220;I reserve the right to have you take my name off it if you don&#8217;t follow my recommendations. You&#8217;re paying me to lend my name to this work, but if you won&#8217;t take my suggestions, then it&#8217;s not my work.&#8221; Or something less clunky.</p>
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		By: MoJo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoJo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Heidi.

Question: How is it that after years of being heavily edited do you not learn how to write better than you did when you first started?

My editor (Th. above) teaches me stuff all the time, even if he doesn&#039;t know it. (Of course, this is aversion training because I don&#039;t like getting smacked for the same thing twice.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Heidi.</p>
<p>Question: How is it that after years of being heavily edited do you not learn how to write better than you did when you first started?</p>
<p>My editor (Th. above) teaches me stuff all the time, even if he doesn&#8217;t know it. (Of course, this is aversion training because I don&#8217;t like getting smacked for the same thing twice.)</p>
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		By: Heidi Ruby Miller		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heidi Ruby Miller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I’ve had concerns about the risk of writers self-publishing before they’ve learned how to write, but then I realize that some published writers got (or get) published before they learn how to write.&quot;

So true, Magdalen. I think this was especially true in the 60s, 70s and 80s because I find so many authors who got their break during those decades who say they simply sent their first manuscript off to an editor and the editor wanted it. I can&#039;t believe it&#039;s because these people were all extremely good writers--I believe it was because the competition to get published wasn&#039;t as fierce back then. Of course, these same writers seem to think it should be just as easy for new writers to do what they did. And, if you&#039;re not published, then it&#039;s just because you didn&#039;t work hard enough or write well enough. They don&#039;t even know how condescending that sentiment is.

Great post, Moriah!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ve had concerns about the risk of writers self-publishing before they’ve learned how to write, but then I realize that some published writers got (or get) published before they learn how to write.&#8221;</p>
<p>So true, Magdalen. I think this was especially true in the 60s, 70s and 80s because I find so many authors who got their break during those decades who say they simply sent their first manuscript off to an editor and the editor wanted it. I can&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s because these people were all extremely good writers&#8211;I believe it was because the competition to get published wasn&#8217;t as fierce back then. Of course, these same writers seem to think it should be just as easy for new writers to do what they did. And, if you&#8217;re not published, then it&#8217;s just because you didn&#8217;t work hard enough or write well enough. They don&#8217;t even know how condescending that sentiment is.</p>
<p>Great post, Moriah!</p>
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		By: Courtney Milan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Courtney Milan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Th–charge them triple if tthey choose not to use your edits.&quot;

I would never agree to that, because I don&#039;t know if someone&#039;s any good as an editor. I&#039;ve gotten sample edits from people that would make me run screaming.

If you&#039;re good, I suspect in the coming years you&#039;ll have more than enough work to do. Authors share information. I have had SO many queries over the last three weeks about who I used to edit my work. I suspect that the people who I worked with who are good are going to get a ton of work--so much so that I almost selfishly want to not refer anyone to them.

I think it&#039;s more simple--if you&#039;re good, eventually, you will get great (and repeat) clients, and you can pick and choose who you want to work with.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Th–charge them triple if tthey choose not to use your edits.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would never agree to that, because I don&#8217;t know if someone&#8217;s any good as an editor. I&#8217;ve gotten sample edits from people that would make me run screaming.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re good, I suspect in the coming years you&#8217;ll have more than enough work to do. Authors share information. I have had SO many queries over the last three weeks about who I used to edit my work. I suspect that the people who I worked with who are good are going to get a ton of work&#8211;so much so that I almost selfishly want to not refer anyone to them.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s more simple&#8211;if you&#8217;re good, eventually, you will get great (and repeat) clients, and you can pick and choose who you want to work with.</p>
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		By: elyse		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[elyse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Th--charge them triple if tthey choose not to use your edits.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Th&#8211;charge them triple if tthey choose not to use your edits.</p>
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		By: Keishon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keishon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I sample everything first no matter the price differential because poor writing and editing and poor formatting can be found everywhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sample everything first no matter the price differential because poor writing and editing and poor formatting can be found everywhere.</p>
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		By: Th.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Th.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[.

The risk I&#039;m noticing with becoming a branded editor within the realm of selfpublishing is I can charge someone a thousand dollars and do a bangup job only to have them ignore the bulk of my edits. Do I really want my name on that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.</p>
<p>The risk I&#8217;m noticing with becoming a branded editor within the realm of selfpublishing is I can charge someone a thousand dollars and do a bangup job only to have them ignore the bulk of my edits. Do I really want my name on that?</p>
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