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		By: MoJo		</title>
		<link>https://moriahjovan.com/talesofdunham/blog/clean-does-not-equal-good/#comment-8478</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoJo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Amy!

It&#039;s not about literacy. It&#039;s about what will sell (i.e., does the author have a fanbase/platform) and cost (i.e., not enough editors to go around anymore, so nothing gets edited).

Basically, the big publishers think we&#039;re stupid and will buy any tripe they sell so it doesn&#039;t matter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Amy!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about literacy. It&#8217;s about what will sell (i.e., does the author have a fanbase/platform) and cost (i.e., not enough editors to go around anymore, so nothing gets edited).</p>
<p>Basically, the big publishers think we&#8217;re stupid and will buy any tripe they sell so it doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
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		By: Amy Keeley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amy Keeley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love this post.  It&#039;s exactly what I&#039;ve been thinking for some time now.

I wonder, though, if it&#039;s a sign of a general decline in the literacy of this nation.  I&#039;ve read a few novels lately that made me wonder how the luminaries of NY could have put their clout behind stories that should have never made it beyond AU fanfiction.  They had the same flaws you discussed in your post, but non-LDS so no religious infodump.  One in particular had some potential, but didn&#039;t even appear to be edited beyond checking for spelling and punctuation.

Also not ranting here, btw.  Just dismayed at what I&#039;ve been seeing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this post.  It&#8217;s exactly what I&#8217;ve been thinking for some time now.</p>
<p>I wonder, though, if it&#8217;s a sign of a general decline in the literacy of this nation.  I&#8217;ve read a few novels lately that made me wonder how the luminaries of NY could have put their clout behind stories that should have never made it beyond AU fanfiction.  They had the same flaws you discussed in your post, but non-LDS so no religious infodump.  One in particular had some potential, but didn&#8217;t even appear to be edited beyond checking for spelling and punctuation.</p>
<p>Also not ranting here, btw.  Just dismayed at what I&#8217;ve been seeing.</p>
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		By: Th.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 06:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[.

BatourB was an even crappier movie than book. And that&#039;s saying something.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.</p>
<p>BatourB was an even crappier movie than book. And that&#8217;s saying something.</p>
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		By: Emily		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 22:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OutandAbout,

MoJo&#039;s books aren&#039;t quite my cup of tea either. However, there&#039;s a difference between &quot;not captivating&quot; and &quot;insulting the reader&#039;s intelligence,&quot; which I believe is where she&#039;s coming from in her disappointment with the LDS novel she initially referred to.

To the rest: I&#039;m not LDS and I&#039;m not very politically inclined so I&#039;ve nothing else to add. I did want to step in and point out the difference between personal preferences and audience awareness, though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OutandAbout,</p>
<p>MoJo&#8217;s books aren&#8217;t quite my cup of tea either. However, there&#8217;s a difference between &#8220;not captivating&#8221; and &#8220;insulting the reader&#8217;s intelligence,&#8221; which I believe is where she&#8217;s coming from in her disappointment with the LDS novel she initially referred to.</p>
<p>To the rest: I&#8217;m not LDS and I&#8217;m not very politically inclined so I&#8217;ve nothing else to add. I did want to step in and point out the difference between personal preferences and audience awareness, though.</p>
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		By: MoJo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoJo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 19:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, thanks for trying it, anyway. :) It&#039;s not for everyone, either stylistically or content-ly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, thanks for trying it, anyway. 🙂 It&#8217;s not for everyone, either stylistically or content-ly.</p>
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		By: OutandAbout		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 19:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read the first few chapters of your book. 

&quot;It is a series of choppy sentences strung together. There is no discernible rhythm to it. There is no ebb and flow.&quot;

This is exactly how I would describe your writing. It is not captivating at all, and is difficult at best to follow.  Just because it passes a spell test and grammar check doesn&#039;t mean it is good writing.  Throwing in as many F bombs as you can doesn&#039;t make it exciting ether.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the first few chapters of your book. </p>
<p>&#8220;It is a series of choppy sentences strung together. There is no discernible rhythm to it. There is no ebb and flow.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is exactly how I would describe your writing. It is not captivating at all, and is difficult at best to follow.  Just because it passes a spell test and grammar check doesn&#8217;t mean it is good writing.  Throwing in as many F bombs as you can doesn&#8217;t make it exciting ether.</p>
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		By: MoJo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoJo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 22:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Funny you should say that. Yesterday, Dutcher was quoted at me: &quot;...passionately adhere to the guideline that it is better to tell an R-rated truth than a G-rated lie.&quot;

I never saw &lt;i&gt;Baptists at our Barbecue&lt;/i&gt; because around here, Baptists (most often of the Southern variety) wouldn&#039;t show up to a Mormon&#039;s barbecue at all, so to me, the premise was flawed. And after the things I&#039;ve heard about it... Whooo boy. This Tarantino &amp; Kevin Smith fan isn&#039;t going anywhere near it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny you should say that. Yesterday, Dutcher was quoted at me: &#8220;&#8230;passionately adhere to the guideline that it is better to tell an R-rated truth than a G-rated lie.&#8221;</p>
<p>I never saw <i>Baptists at our Barbecue</i> because around here, Baptists (most often of the Southern variety) wouldn&#8217;t show up to a Mormon&#8217;s barbecue at all, so to me, the premise was flawed. And after the things I&#8217;ve heard about it&#8230; Whooo boy. This Tarantino &#038; Kevin Smith fan isn&#8217;t going anywhere near it.</p>
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		By: The Franchise		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Franchise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 21:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m thinking about Theric&#039;s post on the 13th article of faith here.  &quot;Virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy&quot; does not mean &quot;lacking depictions of transgressing the law of chastity.&quot;

I enjoy fluff fiction on occassion, but to say _Baptists at our Barbeque_ fulfills that standard better than _The Shawshank Redemption_ due to the relative amounts of profanity, vulgarity, sexuality, theft, and violence in each story would be indefensible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thinking about Theric&#8217;s post on the 13th article of faith here.  &#8220;Virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy&#8221; does not mean &#8220;lacking depictions of transgressing the law of chastity.&#8221;</p>
<p>I enjoy fluff fiction on occassion, but to say _Baptists at our Barbeque_ fulfills that standard better than _The Shawshank Redemption_ due to the relative amounts of profanity, vulgarity, sexuality, theft, and violence in each story would be indefensible.</p>
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		By: Dude		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 04:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dude wonders how Ms. Dew would respond.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude wonders how Ms. Dew would respond.</p>
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		By: Th.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Th.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[.

Talking with people at DB, I think there aren&#039;t any settled answers to these questions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.</p>
<p>Talking with people at DB, I think there aren&#8217;t any settled answers to these questions.</p>
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