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		By: MoJo		</title>
		<link>https://moriahjovan.com/talesofdunham/blog/caving-to-instinct-and-capability/#comment-7658</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoJo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, I have to tell you...you&#039;re the one who put me back on track and I&#039;ve finished STAY.  I&#039;m 3/4 of the way through MAGDALENE.  I&#039;m almost finished designing a book (under my real name), which I&#039;ve enjoyed so much.

I think David&#039;s interview with Sarah Wendell is a good lesson in doing what you love, putting it out there, and letting that love catch on with others.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, I have to tell you&#8230;you&#8217;re the one who put me back on track and I&#8217;ve finished STAY.  I&#8217;m 3/4 of the way through MAGDALENE.  I&#8217;m almost finished designing a book (under my real name), which I&#8217;ve enjoyed so much.</p>
<p>I think David&#8217;s interview with Sarah Wendell is a good lesson in doing what you love, putting it out there, and letting that love catch on with others.</p>
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		By: Mike Cane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Cane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What a hoot, to find my two tweets here.

Do you know how many print-published writers I know who ask the same questions you have?  Writers with actual backlists of printed-on-paper books who daily teeter on the edge of being dropped by publishers looking for Blockbuster Books?

I offer you Charles Bukowski:
http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/charles-bukowski-outsider-writer-poet/

&#062;&#062;&#062;How do you know that you’re the one [to be a writer]? You don’t know. It’s a shot in the dark. You take it or you become a normal, civilized person from 8 to 5, get married, have children, Christmas together, in comes Grandma, “Hi, Grandma, come in” “Hi, you,” you know. Shit! I couldn’t take that. I’d rather murder myself.

And:

&#062;&#062;&#062;[T]en years ago, I was a postal clerk, down at Alameda Street, sticking letters into slots like this. Within ten years, I’m published in Germany, Norway, France, Holland, Italy, England, uh, you know, more. I can’t name six or seven more. What happened?

And finally:

&#062;&#062;&#062;Your life is your life. Don’t let it be clubbed into dank submission.

Now get back to writing!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a hoot, to find my two tweets here.</p>
<p>Do you know how many print-published writers I know who ask the same questions you have?  Writers with actual backlists of printed-on-paper books who daily teeter on the edge of being dropped by publishers looking for Blockbuster Books?</p>
<p>I offer you Charles Bukowski:<br />
<a href="http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/charles-bukowski-outsider-writer-poet/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/charles-bukowski-outsider-writer-poet/</a></p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;How do you know that you’re the one [to be a writer]? You don’t know. It’s a shot in the dark. You take it or you become a normal, civilized person from 8 to 5, get married, have children, Christmas together, in comes Grandma, “Hi, Grandma, come in” “Hi, you,” you know. Shit! I couldn’t take that. I’d rather murder myself.</p>
<p>And:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;[T]en years ago, I was a postal clerk, down at Alameda Street, sticking letters into slots like this. Within ten years, I’m published in Germany, Norway, France, Holland, Italy, England, uh, you know, more. I can’t name six or seven more. What happened?</p>
<p>And finally:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;Your life is your life. Don’t let it be clubbed into dank submission.</p>
<p>Now get back to writing!</p>
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		By: MoJo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoJo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Forgive my lateness in replying.

&lt;blockquote&gt;But I sure don’t love it the way he does, and I could never be happy spending 40 - 60 hours a week (his schedule) doing nothing but marketing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Lauri, exactly!

&lt;blockquote&gt;The person who devises effective marketing packages for self-publishing companies that their customers can purchase is going to make a lot of money. By effective, I mean it can get you into media and bookstores through the same doors as the marketing departments of traditional publishing houses can.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Do we know there isn&#039;t such a service?  I don&#039;t know because I haven&#039;t looked, but if there&#039;s not, you&#039;re absolutely correct.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive my lateness in replying.</p>
<blockquote><p>But I sure don’t love it the way he does, and I could never be happy spending 40 &#8211; 60 hours a week (his schedule) doing nothing but marketing.</p></blockquote>
<p>Lauri, exactly!</p>
<blockquote><p>The person who devises effective marketing packages for self-publishing companies that their customers can purchase is going to make a lot of money. By effective, I mean it can get you into media and bookstores through the same doors as the marketing departments of traditional publishing houses can.</p></blockquote>
<p>Do we know there isn&#8217;t such a service?  I don&#8217;t know because I haven&#8217;t looked, but if there&#8217;s not, you&#8217;re absolutely correct.</p>
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		By: Lauri Shaw		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lauri Shaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I not only don’t enjoy marketing, I find it drains my energy for anything else in my life I could or should or want to be doing because I’m always chasing that next sale. It decreases my enjoyment in online and real-life interactions.&quot;

Yes. This is the reason I have not made STP available in print. People keep asking me. I keep giving them the same answer: I&#039;d like to write more books, rather than have to spend all my writing time trying to sell the one I&#039;ve already got.

I don&#039;t hate marketing - my husband is a marketer, and he&#039;s taught me some things that make it interesting. But I sure don&#039;t love it the way he does, and I could never be happy spending 40 - 60 hours a week (his schedule) doing nothing but marketing.

The person who devises effective marketing packages for self-publishing companies that their customers can purchase is going to make a lot of money. By effective, I mean it can get you into media and bookstores through the same doors as the marketing departments of traditional publishing houses can.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I not only don’t enjoy marketing, I find it drains my energy for anything else in my life I could or should or want to be doing because I’m always chasing that next sale. It decreases my enjoyment in online and real-life interactions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes. This is the reason I have not made STP available in print. People keep asking me. I keep giving them the same answer: I&#8217;d like to write more books, rather than have to spend all my writing time trying to sell the one I&#8217;ve already got.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t hate marketing &#8211; my husband is a marketer, and he&#8217;s taught me some things that make it interesting. But I sure don&#8217;t love it the way he does, and I could never be happy spending 40 &#8211; 60 hours a week (his schedule) doing nothing but marketing.</p>
<p>The person who devises effective marketing packages for self-publishing companies that their customers can purchase is going to make a lot of money. By effective, I mean it can get you into media and bookstores through the same doors as the marketing departments of traditional publishing houses can.</p>
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		By: Dude		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dude says...(in sing song voice) Don&#039;t worry....be happy!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude says&#8230;(in sing song voice) Don&#8217;t worry&#8230;.be happy!</p>
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		By: Eva Gale		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eva Gale]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 01:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In my best Dory Voice. &quot;Just keep writing, just keep writing.&quot; And I, also, am no marketer. Although I find it fascinating, I, like you, get way the heel tired fast when forced to do it. So I keep it to my free reads, my blog, and also like you, twitter, which exploded my hits when I started tweeting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my best Dory Voice. &#8220;Just keep writing, just keep writing.&#8221; And I, also, am no marketer. Although I find it fascinating, I, like you, get way the heel tired fast when forced to do it. So I keep it to my free reads, my blog, and also like you, twitter, which exploded my hits when I started tweeting.</p>
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		By: MoJo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoJo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;So, it’s do the time at the job that feeds me, and then polish my art because I love it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But you know, in the big scheme of things, there are relatively few writers who don&#039;t have to worry about the day job.  We&#039;re not alone, and especially in this financial environment.  I&#039;m not going to say it can&#039;t be done, but novel writing takes time and from what I can tell (at least in romance), advances aren&#039;t anything to write home about.

&lt;blockquote&gt;One important thing Tao Lin both demonstrates and articulates is that having a publisher doing a lot of the time-consuming, non-writing work for you is invaluable.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, and that&#039;s where self-publishers really lack. I knew that going in.  On the other hand, I see authors in romance who A) don&#039;t have much, if any support from their publishers and B) do as much or more marketing (and more creative marketing) than I do.  It&#039;s expected and &lt;i&gt;they&lt;/i&gt; have a time limit on their books.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Twitter can keep you in communication and grows your network effectively. Blogging is still there for longer form stuff, but needn’t be relied upon exclusively for self-promotion or relationship building.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My traffic exploded after I got on Twitter.  I could NOT believe how effective it was, and all I had to do was write what struck me funny.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t believe in the efficacy of struggle, so I just want to write more, write better and keep myself out there and involved.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I love that.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I seem to have fallen into a groove recently with being able to balance the marketing/business side and the creative side.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Perhaps what I&#039;m doing is walking the path to GETTING that balance.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I absolutely believe that the best thing writers can do for their last book is write another one.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I see this occasionally, but the noise of the MARKET MARKET MARKET people drowns it out. It struck me JUST RIGHT the first time I saw it, and it strikes me that way every time I&#039;ve ever seen it after, and every time I&#039;ve ever repeated it.  My instinct.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I figured out right away how easy it is to get sucked into the blog/comment/blog/comment timesink.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, and it&#039;s so ENJOYABLE.  I&#039;m glad to know I&#039;m not unanimous in my opinion.  ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So, it’s do the time at the job that feeds me, and then polish my art because I love it.</p></blockquote>
<p>But you know, in the big scheme of things, there are relatively few writers who don&#8217;t have to worry about the day job.  We&#8217;re not alone, and especially in this financial environment.  I&#8217;m not going to say it can&#8217;t be done, but novel writing takes time and from what I can tell (at least in romance), advances aren&#8217;t anything to write home about.</p>
<blockquote><p>One important thing Tao Lin both demonstrates and articulates is that having a publisher doing a lot of the time-consuming, non-writing work for you is invaluable.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, and that&#8217;s where self-publishers really lack. I knew that going in.  On the other hand, I see authors in romance who A) don&#8217;t have much, if any support from their publishers and B) do as much or more marketing (and more creative marketing) than I do.  It&#8217;s expected and <i>they</i> have a time limit on their books.</p>
<blockquote><p>Twitter can keep you in communication and grows your network effectively. Blogging is still there for longer form stuff, but needn’t be relied upon exclusively for self-promotion or relationship building.</p></blockquote>
<p>My traffic exploded after I got on Twitter.  I could NOT believe how effective it was, and all I had to do was write what struck me funny.</p>
<blockquote><p>I don’t believe in the efficacy of struggle, so I just want to write more, write better and keep myself out there and involved.</p></blockquote>
<p>I love that.</p>
<blockquote><p>I seem to have fallen into a groove recently with being able to balance the marketing/business side and the creative side.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps what I&#8217;m doing is walking the path to GETTING that balance.</p>
<blockquote><p>I absolutely believe that the best thing writers can do for their last book is write another one.</p></blockquote>
<p>I see this occasionally, but the noise of the MARKET MARKET MARKET people drowns it out. It struck me JUST RIGHT the first time I saw it, and it strikes me that way every time I&#8217;ve ever seen it after, and every time I&#8217;ve ever repeated it.  My instinct.</p>
<blockquote><p>I figured out right away how easy it is to get sucked into the blog/comment/blog/comment timesink.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, and it&#8217;s so ENJOYABLE.  I&#8217;m glad to know I&#8217;m not unanimous in my opinion.  😉</p>
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		By: Philip B Persinger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip B Persinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I give hardcovers to my local libraries. I can follow the circulations on the county web site.

When the amazon tracking number for my book is over a zillion-and-twelve, the fact that someone has checked it out and is reading it is a comfort.

Also, I knew a long time ago that I will always need a day job; just as I know that my readership will die with me.

I am as sure that my teenage daughter&#039;s generation will rediscover reading as much as they will become avid Morris dancers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I give hardcovers to my local libraries. I can follow the circulations on the county web site.</p>
<p>When the amazon tracking number for my book is over a zillion-and-twelve, the fact that someone has checked it out and is reading it is a comfort.</p>
<p>Also, I knew a long time ago that I will always need a day job; just as I know that my readership will die with me.</p>
<p>I am as sure that my teenage daughter&#8217;s generation will rediscover reading as much as they will become avid Morris dancers.</p>
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		By: Maureen Ogle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maureen Ogle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great, great post. Over the past few years, I&#039;ve thought about every point you make, and I agree with every word you wrote

I absolutely believe that the best thing writers can do for their last book is write another one.

But -- easier said than done. My last book keeps nipping at my ankles, demanding attention. 

It&#039;s a constant struggle to balance its demands with the book I&#039;m writing now. 

As for the blogging/commenting/blogging cycle: OY! I enjoy blogging (much to my amazement) but I figured out right away how easy it is to get sucked into the blog/comment/blog/comment timesink. 

(I feel guilty just sitting here reading your entry and commenting on it!)

Anyway, no real point here except that you&#039;ve hit every writer&#039;s-dilemma-nail on the head.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, great post. Over the past few years, I&#8217;ve thought about every point you make, and I agree with every word you wrote</p>
<p>I absolutely believe that the best thing writers can do for their last book is write another one.</p>
<p>But &#8212; easier said than done. My last book keeps nipping at my ankles, demanding attention. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a constant struggle to balance its demands with the book I&#8217;m writing now. </p>
<p>As for the blogging/commenting/blogging cycle: OY! I enjoy blogging (much to my amazement) but I figured out right away how easy it is to get sucked into the blog/comment/blog/comment timesink. </p>
<p>(I feel guilty just sitting here reading your entry and commenting on it!)</p>
<p>Anyway, no real point here except that you&#8217;ve hit every writer&#8217;s-dilemma-nail on the head.</p>
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		By: RJ Keller		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RJ Keller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have never been able to get into Twitter. Maybe I&#039;m not doing it right. I&#039;ll have to friend you guys (or whatever they call it there) to see how to do it properly.

Regarding the benefits of having a publisher doing the &#039;dirty work&#039;...I really do envy that. Still, I seem to have fallen into a groove recently with being able to balance the marketing/business side and the creative side.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never been able to get into Twitter. Maybe I&#8217;m not doing it right. I&#8217;ll have to friend you guys (or whatever they call it there) to see how to do it properly.</p>
<p>Regarding the benefits of having a publisher doing the &#8216;dirty work&#8217;&#8230;I really do envy that. Still, I seem to have fallen into a groove recently with being able to balance the marketing/business side and the creative side.</p>
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