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	<title>Comments on: This book&#8217;s kinda giving me the willies.</title>
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		<title>By: MoJo</title>
		<link>http://moriahjovan.com/mojo/this-books-kinda-giving-me-the-willies/comment-page-1#comment-6490</link>
		<dc:creator>MoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Oh…. I thought you said seven-inch territory. I need to read more closely.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So many jokes, so little time.</description>
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<p>So many jokes, so little time.</p>
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		<title>By: Dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude roars with laughter.</description>
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		<title>By: Th.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Th.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 04:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.

Oh.... I thought you said seven-&lt;i&gt;inch&lt;/i&gt; territory. I need to read more closely.</description>
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<p>Oh&#8230;. I thought you said seven-<i>inch</i> territory. I need to read more closely.</p>
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		<title>By: MoJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, what I mean by more insidious than &lt;i&gt;Twilight&lt;/i&gt; is that this is for adults. You can forgive a tween/teen girl for having ridiculous fantasies, and I have to assume that all the TwilightMoms out there know, somewhere down deep inside, that vampires (particularly SPARKLY ones) don&#039;t exist.

This isn&#039;t little girl territory here.  This is serious 7-year-itch territory, with a thoroughly human male (one who is attractive and upon whom the housewife has had a fan-type crush for years) and who is obviously in love with her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, what I mean by more insidious than <i>Twilight</i> is that this is for adults. You can forgive a tween/teen girl for having ridiculous fantasies, and I have to assume that all the TwilightMoms out there know, somewhere down deep inside, that vampires (particularly SPARKLY ones) don&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t little girl territory here.  This is serious 7-year-itch territory, with a thoroughly human male (one who is attractive and upon whom the housewife has had a fan-type crush for years) and who is obviously in love with her.</p>
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		<title>By: MoJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing that&#039;s truly weird about it is that the housewife seems rather self-aware, but at the same time deliberately in denial because she wants what she wants. But it&#039;s just not campy enough to make it over-the-top fun/ridiculous and give it a real out. Does that make sense?

I&#039;m only 80 pages in at this point.  I&#039;m highlighting and margin-noting, so this will take me a while. 

It&#039;s far more insidious than &lt;i&gt;Twilight&lt;/i&gt;, if you ask me, because of what Th. said: &quot;The stupid Mormon trope.&quot; I never thought of it like that, and it&#039;s stuck with me ever since.

There are four issues at work for me in this book:

1. Feminist/anti-feminist dichotomy that do not function well together.

2. Realistic portrayal of a normal Mormon woman (normal being somewhat relative to my own experience), i.e., the &quot;stupid Mormon trope.&quot;

3. Wish fulfillment fantasy or possibly midlife crisis or postpartum neurosis, which seems to go completely unacknowledged (so far). I&#039;d buy this; wonder if she&#039;ll go there.

4. The definition of the word &quot;adultery.&quot; I&#039;m far enough in now that I can see it&#039;s exactly what JenB thought: An emotional affair. This woman is having an affair.

Also, the husband&#039;s a little too accepting for a little too long. Enough has gone on by this point he should have been raising the roof at her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that&#8217;s truly weird about it is that the housewife seems rather self-aware, but at the same time deliberately in denial because she wants what she wants. But it&#8217;s just not campy enough to make it over-the-top fun/ridiculous and give it a real out. Does that make sense?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m only 80 pages in at this point.  I&#8217;m highlighting and margin-noting, so this will take me a while. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s far more insidious than <i>Twilight</i>, if you ask me, because of what Th. said: &#8220;The stupid Mormon trope.&#8221; I never thought of it like that, and it&#8217;s stuck with me ever since.</p>
<p>There are four issues at work for me in this book:</p>
<p>1. Feminist/anti-feminist dichotomy that do not function well together.</p>
<p>2. Realistic portrayal of a normal Mormon woman (normal being somewhat relative to my own experience), i.e., the &#8220;stupid Mormon trope.&#8221;</p>
<p>3. Wish fulfillment fantasy or possibly midlife crisis or postpartum neurosis, which seems to go completely unacknowledged (so far). I&#8217;d buy this; wonder if she&#8217;ll go there.</p>
<p>4. The definition of the word &#8220;adultery.&#8221; I&#8217;m far enough in now that I can see it&#8217;s exactly what JenB thought: An emotional affair. This woman is having an affair.</p>
<p>Also, the husband&#8217;s a little too accepting for a little too long. Enough has gone on by this point he should have been raising the roof at her.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After &lt;i&gt;Twilight,&lt;/i&gt; I&#039;m beginning to believe that these authors are blind to the psychological subtexts in their own stories. Is there a new genre in Mormon letters for the woman pining away for the life that woulda-coulda-shoulda been? This book seems to be a mirror image of what I &lt;a href=&quot;http://eugenewoodbury.blogspot.com/2007/08/promise-not-worth-keeping.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;observed&lt;/a&gt; Evans doing in &lt;i&gt;The Last Promise.&lt;/i&gt; It&#039;s enough to consider taking Freud and that whole subconscious thing seriously again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After <i>Twilight,</i> I&#8217;m beginning to believe that these authors are blind to the psychological subtexts in their own stories. Is there a new genre in Mormon letters for the woman pining away for the life that woulda-coulda-shoulda been? This book seems to be a mirror image of what I <a href="http://eugenewoodbury.blogspot.com/2007/08/promise-not-worth-keeping.html" rel="nofollow">observed</a> Evans doing in <i>The Last Promise.</i> It&#8217;s enough to consider taking Freud and that whole subconscious thing seriously again.</p>
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		<title>By: MoJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to break out the highlighters and sticky flags. This one deserves pseudo-academic pillorying.</description>
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		<title>By: Th.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Th.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.

Heh. I left a noun out of that sentence which makes it much more interesting. I&#039;ll leave it as it stands.

Sure. I sense you won&#039;t be passing it on to the next generation. 

(I won&#039;t be rushing to read it though --- you&#039;ve done a pretty good job at halting that.)</description>
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<p>Heh. I left a noun out of that sentence which makes it much more interesting. I&#8217;ll leave it as it stands.</p>
<p>Sure. I sense you won&#8217;t be passing it on to the next generation. </p>
<p>(I won&#8217;t be rushing to read it though &#8212; you&#8217;ve done a pretty good job at halting that.)</p>
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		<title>By: MoJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Th., I&#039;ll send this to you as soon as I&#039;m finished if you still want to read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Th., I&#8217;ll send this to you as soon as I&#8217;m finished if you still want to read it.</p>
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		<title>By: MoJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kel, you&#039;ll have to explain this &quot;pie&quot; concept. Afraid I have no idea what that is. Dude knows I am unaware of the existence of &quot;pie&quot; much less how to create one.

Th., did Wife #1 approve your courtship of #2 and #3? Or are you a traditional household?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kel, you&#8217;ll have to explain this &#8220;pie&#8221; concept. Afraid I have no idea what that is. Dude knows I am unaware of the existence of &#8220;pie&#8221; much less how to create one.</p>
<p>Th., did Wife #1 approve your courtship of #2 and #3? Or are you a traditional household?</p>
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