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		<title>By: Th.</title>
		<link>http://moriahjovan.com/mojo/i-chuckle/comment-page-1#comment-1159</link>
		<dc:creator>Th.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.

Maybe that&#039;s what agents need --- a timer.</description>
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<p>Maybe that&#8217;s what agents need &#8212; a timer.</p>
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		<title>By: samq</title>
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		<dc:creator>samq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t just agents... it&#039;s magazines, newspapers, everything you see in print.  The text generation, the 20-something editors, just aren&#039;t as careful, and there is such a huge demand for content...

Oh, and I didn&#039;t really want to edit, but I like the timed edit thing so much that here I am... editing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t just agents&#8230; it&#8217;s magazines, newspapers, everything you see in print.  The text generation, the 20-something editors, just aren&#8217;t as careful, and there is such a huge demand for content&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh, and I didn&#8217;t really want to edit, but I like the timed edit thing so much that here I am&#8230; editing.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe Winters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe Winters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy crap. Are they kidding with this?  You know, every day I stumble upon something that confirms the path I&#039;m on.  I thought I would be all angsty like &quot;Oh God, I&#039;m messing up my chances at a writing career if this goes bad.&quot;  But holy crap, what writing career?  Look at this mess.

To make sure I understand the state of things, it&#039;s as follows:  To land a NY publisher, you have to have an agent.  But the better agents don&#039;t accept unsolicited submissions or queries either.  Most of them aren&#039;t accepting new clients.

So, you need either a new or a not great agent.  With a newer agent, at least they don&#039;t necessarily suck, but they may or may not have the connections you actually need.  With an agent that isn&#039;t as good, they&#039;re no better really than if you&#039;d submitted directly to the publisher yourself.  And in some cases the cover letter, etc. might have been worse than what you did.

This is the part where I pause and laugh about the &quot;quality control system.&quot; 

This is just, damn, there is Kool aid involved here, there has to be.  I do know people who have agents and publishers, and I think that rocks, but for those of us without that, it&#039;s a kool aid drinking experience.

I&#039;m completely not concerned with getting an agent or publisher.  I&#039;m concerned with getting readers.  If I can do that on a big enough scale, then I will merit the wider distribution a large NY pub can give me.

If I can&#039;t, then I can&#039;t, but I don&#039;t think a NY pub would have made a difference in that case.

And small publishers that take unsolicited work, most of them operate under such tight budgets that they can&#039;t promote me either.  With a smaller press the author really is doing ALL their promo.  I&#039;m not doing all that for the publisher to reap the profits and me to reap a small royalty. 

Screw that crap. That&#039;s what you do when the entry barriers (i.e. monetary cost to publish anything) are too high.  That&#039;s not true anymore.

I&#039;m so glad I got off this hamster wheel before I got too far on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crap. Are they kidding with this?  You know, every day I stumble upon something that confirms the path I&#8217;m on.  I thought I would be all angsty like &#8220;Oh God, I&#8217;m messing up my chances at a writing career if this goes bad.&#8221;  But holy crap, what writing career?  Look at this mess.</p>
<p>To make sure I understand the state of things, it&#8217;s as follows:  To land a NY publisher, you have to have an agent.  But the better agents don&#8217;t accept unsolicited submissions or queries either.  Most of them aren&#8217;t accepting new clients.</p>
<p>So, you need either a new or a not great agent.  With a newer agent, at least they don&#8217;t necessarily suck, but they may or may not have the connections you actually need.  With an agent that isn&#8217;t as good, they&#8217;re no better really than if you&#8217;d submitted directly to the publisher yourself.  And in some cases the cover letter, etc. might have been worse than what you did.</p>
<p>This is the part where I pause and laugh about the &#8220;quality control system.&#8221; </p>
<p>This is just, damn, there is Kool aid involved here, there has to be.  I do know people who have agents and publishers, and I think that rocks, but for those of us without that, it&#8217;s a kool aid drinking experience.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m completely not concerned with getting an agent or publisher.  I&#8217;m concerned with getting readers.  If I can do that on a big enough scale, then I will merit the wider distribution a large NY pub can give me.</p>
<p>If I can&#8217;t, then I can&#8217;t, but I don&#8217;t think a NY pub would have made a difference in that case.</p>
<p>And small publishers that take unsolicited work, most of them operate under such tight budgets that they can&#8217;t promote me either.  With a smaller press the author really is doing ALL their promo.  I&#8217;m not doing all that for the publisher to reap the profits and me to reap a small royalty. </p>
<p>Screw that crap. That&#8217;s what you do when the entry barriers (i.e. monetary cost to publish anything) are too high.  That&#8217;s not true anymore.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so glad I got off this hamster wheel before I got too far on it.</p>
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