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		<title>By: Wm Morris</title>
		<link>http://moriahjovan.com/mojo/harlequin-ur-doin-it-rong/comment-page-1#comment-9625</link>
		<dc:creator>Wm Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure there&#039;s disagreement over the causes, but my perception is that it&#039;s both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s disagreement over the causes, but my perception is that it&#8217;s both.</p>
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		<title>By: MoJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The SFWA is notoriously out-of-touch when it comes to this type of thing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Out of touch or attempting to protect its territory?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The SFWA is notoriously out-of-touch when it comes to this type of thing.</p></blockquote>
<p>Out of touch or attempting to protect its territory?</p>
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		<title>By: Wm Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wm Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The SFWA is notoriously out-of-touch when it comes to this type of thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The SFWA is notoriously out-of-touch when it comes to this type of thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Sutton</title>
		<link>http://moriahjovan.com/mojo/harlequin-ur-doin-it-rong/comment-page-1#comment-9584</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Sutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve gathered the impression that in the UK, especially, there must have been a great deal of predatory POD publishing, as most discussion sites treat it as if it were a disease!  Here, in the US, it seems writers that choose that route know what they&#039;re getting into, for the most part, and even if book sales are terrible, come out of it having learned a great deal.  

I know I have, and see the small investment as having strengthened me for the coming battles ahead!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve gathered the impression that in the UK, especially, there must have been a great deal of predatory POD publishing, as most discussion sites treat it as if it were a disease!  Here, in the US, it seems writers that choose that route know what they&#8217;re getting into, for the most part, and even if book sales are terrible, come out of it having learned a great deal.  </p>
<p>I know I have, and see the small investment as having strengthened me for the coming battles ahead!</p>
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		<title>By: MoJo</title>
		<link>http://moriahjovan.com/mojo/harlequin-ur-doin-it-rong/comment-page-1#comment-9583</link>
		<dc:creator>MoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m curious why writers would object to opening up the field a bit?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The argument is that these people are potential victims for a snake oil salesman (Harlequin) and must be saved from themselves. It&#039;s a bit broader and deeper than that, though.

&lt;blockquote&gt;the marketing acumen of the author will determine whether a book will sell, leaving books that are not market worthy to languish.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Now, more than ever.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Why would any writer be threatened by the creative actions of another?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No idea. I&#039;m still scratching my head over that myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m curious why writers would object to opening up the field a bit?</p></blockquote>
<p>The argument is that these people are potential victims for a snake oil salesman (Harlequin) and must be saved from themselves. It&#8217;s a bit broader and deeper than that, though.</p>
<blockquote><p>the marketing acumen of the author will determine whether a book will sell, leaving books that are not market worthy to languish.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now, more than ever.</p>
<blockquote><p>Why would any writer be threatened by the creative actions of another?</p></blockquote>
<p>No idea. I&#8217;m still scratching my head over that myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Sutton</title>
		<link>http://moriahjovan.com/mojo/harlequin-ur-doin-it-rong/comment-page-1#comment-9582</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Sutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read in PW that the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers association is lambasting Harlequin to remove itself from the association with the POD/Self-Pub operation.  

Their eligibility requirements lists the publishers to whom an author must have made a book or short story sale to.  Of course, there are no self-publishing entities listed.

I&#039;m curious why writers would object to opening up the field a bit? My take on Indie Publishing has always been that the market and the marketing acumen of the author will determine whether a book will sell, leaving books that are not market worthy to languish.  Without the extensive market hype that a big, mainstream roll-out can give it, a book has to stand on its own merits.  It seems to me that Indie Authors have a great deal of pressure on them to create really good books, otherwise, they are wasting their money, and who can afford that?

Let me pose a hypothetical here.  

A sci-fi writer, whose unusual voice and subjects has had no luck when submitting to agents -- the current book sales market is very restrictive -- so they opt to self-publish (as many, many now revered sci-fi writers have done in the past) to get the stories out and let the books stand on their own.  

How does this impact other published sci-fi writers?  Why would any writer be threatened by the creative actions of another? Whay would a writer be threatened by a publisher needing to branch out to acquire additional markets and sales?  Times are tough -- they require new ideas and forms we haven&#039;t seen before in order to survive.

Isn&#039;t the goal to allow every form of good creative writing to find its market if it can?  I guess not.  Is being mainstream published the only thing which determines if writing is any good or a story worthy?  I guess so.  

That leaves thousands of good writers out in the cold, possibly forever.  

&quot;Last one in, make sure the gate&#039;s closed!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read in PW that the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers association is lambasting Harlequin to remove itself from the association with the POD/Self-Pub operation.  </p>
<p>Their eligibility requirements lists the publishers to whom an author must have made a book or short story sale to.  Of course, there are no self-publishing entities listed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious why writers would object to opening up the field a bit? My take on Indie Publishing has always been that the market and the marketing acumen of the author will determine whether a book will sell, leaving books that are not market worthy to languish.  Without the extensive market hype that a big, mainstream roll-out can give it, a book has to stand on its own merits.  It seems to me that Indie Authors have a great deal of pressure on them to create really good books, otherwise, they are wasting their money, and who can afford that?</p>
<p>Let me pose a hypothetical here.  </p>
<p>A sci-fi writer, whose unusual voice and subjects has had no luck when submitting to agents &#8212; the current book sales market is very restrictive &#8212; so they opt to self-publish (as many, many now revered sci-fi writers have done in the past) to get the stories out and let the books stand on their own.  </p>
<p>How does this impact other published sci-fi writers?  Why would any writer be threatened by the creative actions of another? Whay would a writer be threatened by a publisher needing to branch out to acquire additional markets and sales?  Times are tough &#8212; they require new ideas and forms we haven&#8217;t seen before in order to survive.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t the goal to allow every form of good creative writing to find its market if it can?  I guess not.  Is being mainstream published the only thing which determines if writing is any good or a story worthy?  I guess so.  </p>
<p>That leaves thousands of good writers out in the cold, possibly forever.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Last one in, make sure the gate&#8217;s closed!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Planner Reads &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Everything You Thought You Knew is Wrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Planner Reads &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Everything You Thought You Knew is Wrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] –Moriah Jovan, Harlequin: Ur doin it rong [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Zoe Winters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe Winters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, aso love your new (to me) blog layout.  Damn it&#039;s pretty. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, aso love your new (to me) blog layout.  Damn it&#8217;s pretty. <img src='http://moriahjovan.com/mojo/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Zoe Winters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe Winters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this post! And squee! I just noticed &quot;Stay&quot; is out now.  Your cover is lovely!  I&#039;ll be ordering this soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this post! And squee! I just noticed &#8220;Stay&#8221; is out now.  Your cover is lovely!  I&#8217;ll be ordering this soon!</p>
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		<title>By: MoJo</title>
		<link>http://moriahjovan.com/mojo/harlequin-ur-doin-it-rong/comment-page-1#comment-9318</link>
		<dc:creator>MoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly.

(I don&#039;t know why you keep getting caught in my spam trap. Kismet doesn&#039;t like you. *rimshot*)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly.</p>
<p>(I don&#8217;t know why you keep getting caught in my spam trap. Kismet doesn&#8217;t like you. *rimshot*)</p>
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